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<p><strong>Note:</strong> This article was written by one of my students, Garland Hummel. In my MMA class up at the University of Utah, I asked my students to write a short paper, and his is excellent. He used a number of books at videos as reference (some of which I&#8217;ve interspersed in the post), along with his Muay Thai training. He goes over some basic and advanced clinch work and considerations. With his express permission, I present,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><strong>The Clutches of Siam: Gross Prummb/Clinch  101</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong><em>By Garland Hummel</em></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Forward</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">It  seems to me a great injustice to divorce an aspect of an art from the  context in which it is rightfully found</span><span id="more-225"></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">, both culturally (as it is indisputable  that each and every martial art has a culture all its own, even distinct  and unique from its ethnic and national roots) and physically (that  is to be isolated out without giving any thought to the techniques,  tactics, and strategies that support it’s use) without at least a  nod or tribute to the art in it’s entirety and a word of wisdom to  the reader… </span> <span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The  art of Muay Thai <em>must be experienced to be understood</em>. Its techniques  may be taken out of their original context and used or modified to fit,  and quite effectively I might add, in mixed martial arts events or cross-trained  into other venues…but it should be recognized that this is not the  full extent of this rich and beautiful expression of the human form.   ALL martial arts and combat sports can and should be seen as modalities  through which an individual can examine him or herself under great scrutiny  and model and forge themselves into the best individuals they can be.  Martial arts are an exercise in holistic totality, and an expression  of the self. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>What is the Clinch?</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The  clinch, also known as the prummb (plam, plum, plumb, plam lam, etc.)  in Thai boxing can be succinctly called a range of standing grappling.  The clinching range is essentially when you can reach your opponent’s  head and they can reach yours. This is the range where “all guns fire”,  that is, any and all weapons possessed by an individual fighter or combatant  can be employed. From the clinching range you may kick, punch, elbow,  knee, head butt, throw, choke, or utilize joint manipulations, and whomever  you may be facing will be able to do the same. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In  Western boxing, it is not uncommon to see tired fighters collapse on  one another or even hold one another from this range. When boxers do  this, the mentality is that by being close, they are able to muffle  their opponent’s punches while they catch their breath or recover  after having their bell rung. It is imperative that this not be considered  similar to the extremely intricate and complex art of the prummb, which  uses fulcrums, leverage, and unbalancing of the opponent in order to  maintain dominance during a fight. In short, unlike in boxing, the Muay  Thai clinch is a position of power and skill for a fighter, not a position  of recovery nor of temporary frailty.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">If  a wrestler were to stumble into a boxing camp (a training facility for  Thai kickboxers which can be compared more to a barracks than to a dojo  or kwoon) in Thailand, they would probably recognize some of the clinch  drills employed by the boxers as being similar or even identical to  ones they employ during their pummeling drills. Thai clinch work can  and does involve wrist wrestling, wrestling for the elbows, wrestling  for the body, and ultimately wrestling for the neck.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">When  practicing, the boxers will fight for position, with both hands at the  back of the head being the prize. The exchange will go back and forth  as the fighters each try to gain this position and maintain it for as  long as they can, like a sort of two person “king of the hill”.  In a fight, they would use this position to drag or jerk the opponent’s  face into their knee or frame the opponent’s face for a brutal cutting,  spearing, or clubbing elbow. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">In  fact, from the clinching range, multiple styles of knees and elbows  can be employed even without establishing a superior position from the  clinch, or even initiating it. Due to the efficacy of these techniques,  which are without a doubt the best and most powerful tools in the strikers’  arsenal at this range, the fighters will generally only throw light  (as in 30-40%) curve knees to their partner’s thighs or ribs when  training.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Manipulating the Head</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The classical image of a Muay  Thai clinch is when the fighter had both of his arms on the inside of  his opponent’s with his hands grabbing the back of his opponent’s  head.  When a Thai boxer grabs an opponent’s head, they generally  cup one hand around the back of the neck, followed by the other. This  is a <strong>superior position</strong> in Thai boxing, which each fighter in  the clinch may strive for, because it allows a fighter to pull their  opponent’s head down in order to knee it. They <strong>cup the hands</strong> over each other, as interlacing the fingers is 1) impossible to do with  boxing gloves and 2) dangerous and could lead to broken fingers. This  cupped hand posture could also be described as a four fingered <strong>“monkey  paw”</strong> grip, which can be assisted by the thumbs for directing the  spatial positioning of the opponent’s head. The ideal position of  the hands should initially be resting over the muscles on the back of  the neck and at the base of the skull. From here all a fighter needs  to do is <strong>curl</strong> the opponent’s head forward and down in order  to break their posture.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The  idea of moving the head forward has to do with <strong>leverage</strong> and skill,  not simply trying to muscle an opponent’s head down.  A smart  fighter may push an opponent’s head backwards or to the side, or begin  weaving their arms through the opponent’s in order to get them to  relax their neck before jerking it violently down. The fighter’s forearms  on the ulnar side should rest over the opponent’s clavicles at about  the middle. In wrestling this is called a <strong>necktie</strong>. The fighter  also wants to keep their <strong>head as close as possible</strong> to their opponent’s  in order to prevent head butts and elbows. <strong>Space in the clinch is  your enemy</strong>. The only time you want space is when you <strong>pull the  opponent down into your knees or jerk them straight down to the floor</strong>. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">A  mean fighter may shave three to four days prior to a fight and let the  stubble grow in order to make this even more uncomfortable, using the  stubble on their chins like sandpaper on the opponent’s face and neck.  As the head is pulled down, the monkey paw grip may move upwards to  the occipital bone on the back of the skull and the fulcrum being used  may switch from being the triangulation of the neck, forearm and collarbones  to the back of the head, the tops of the collarbone and the elbows which  could be ground in if the fighter so desires. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">During  the whole <strong>transition</strong>, even if the fighter is trying to trick  the opponent into relaxing their neck, they should be pulling in and  down on the back of the opponent’s head.  Being able to manipulate  the opponent’s head allows a fighter to control their balance and,  hence, the rest of their body.  A good saying that goes along with  this is; <strong>“where the head goes, the body follows*.”</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Fighting and Escaping the Clinch</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">When  working the clinch, in order to engage in an almost dialectical back  and forth exchange fighting for position, it is necessary to know how  to break an opponent’s clinch and establish yourself in a superior  position. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Usually  the <strong>first method</strong> taught to fighters is to weave your hands, one  at a time, inside of your opponents when they establish the full clinch  (a.k.a. double neck ties). This effectively puts you in the superior  position where you can pull your opponent’s head down, but don’t  be fooled; your opponent can still fight from here with knees and “dirty  boxing” type punches. It is important to maintain <strong>good posture</strong> while in the clinch to prevent your head from being pulled down. It  is also as important to the person defending the clinch as to the person  going for it to minimize space between their bodies. An upright back  with the hips pushed forward is the posture you want, with your stance  consisting of your feet pointing out at 45-degree angles slightly deeper  than your shoulder’s width apart. I have heard this stance referred  to as <strong>duck-footed</strong>. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Other  ways of getting the superior position include using the forearm like  a fulcrum (<strong>pry-bar</strong>) between (i.e. one part on top, one part under)  the opponent’s arms in order to pry their grip apart. <strong>Pushing up</strong> on their triceps if they give you space will also break their grip.   There are <strong>other methods</strong> where standing chicken-wings and even  standing chokes can be established while fighting for position, or use  of the elbows or knees to the arms can facilitate gaining a superior  position. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Should  your opponent succeed in breaking your posture and pulling your head  down, there are a few methods available to you. Using both hands to  grab around their waist and using your radius on the small of their  back as you wrench them in half is a good way to fold them over and  make them fall. This is a lot like trying to bear hug to <strong>break the  back</strong>. Another way to escape this compromising position is to place  one hand or fist into the opponent’s hip to create space and shove  the other hand up to the back of the neck to establish a single neck  tie and pull yourself up (<strong>push hip, thread through</strong>).  Certainly  in a mixed martial arts competition, shooting in for a double or a single  leg would also be a good way to get out of the knee to face, patellar-maxillary  ( :p ) junction that is the ultimate prize of the Muay Thai clinch.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> <strong>Unbalancing the Opponent</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">While  fighting for the clinch, Thai kickboxers can resemble twirling dervishes  as they spin around the ring in circles and semi-circles. This is a  result of the fighters trying to unbalance each other by <strong>twisting </strong> their opponents around.  The boxers accomplish this while either  in the <strong>full clinch</strong>, or what is called a <strong>50-50 clinch</strong> wherein  each fighter has one necktie and one hand on the other person’s elbow  (i.e. their opponent’s elbow where they have their necktie sunk in).  From here the fighters <strong>pull their opponent’s head down at roughly  a 45 degree angle</strong> with one arm and at the same time use the <strong>same  side leg to make a sweeping semi-circular rotation</strong> to twirl and  unbalance their opponent. This technique will sometimes even cause an  opponent to tumble over themselves, but the goal is simply to loosen  the opponent up a bit and break their posture. This twirling of the  body is usually followed up by curved knees to the opponent’s exposed  side, back, or front, and can make prized targets such as the kidneys,  base of the spine, liver, floating ribs, and even the solar plexus available  to a fighter. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">It  is also not uncommon to see a fighter <strong>jerk</strong> the opponent’s head  over to the other side of theirs in the clinch. This is done with the  same intentions and to always keep the opponent from getting their head  together. Sometimes they will do this while firing staccato, machine  gun fire like straight short knees into their opponent’s body and  thighs as they <strong>alternately pull their opponent’s head to either  side</strong> of theirs. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> At a more advanced level, <strong>throws</strong> (there are many throws legal  in Thai boxing, however hip throws are not, but the opportunities for  many types of throws are rich here) and trips can be incorporated into  this exchange. (A good source for these tools are Kru Greg Nelson’s  videos on the clinch.)</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Knees from the Clinch</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">As  hinted at in the other sections of this paper, there is a plethora of  knee strikes in the Thai arsenal, and Thai kickboxers are masters of  the knee. The first type of knee taught in Thai boxing is the <strong>long  lead knee</strong>, which is delivered from the lead leg and goes up, out,  and in to an opponent, as if trying to spear through their abdomen to  their spine with the tip of the knee. When doing this in Thai boxing,  the supporting leg pivots back and goes on the tips of the toes to allow  for maximum reach and power, and the hips arch back for the same reason.  The toes of the leg delivering the knee are flexed downward to pull  on the tibia and expose the boney surface as a weapon.  This knee  can be delivered outside of the clinch, but is more formidable if the  opponent is pulled into it. Using this knee in the clinch is one of  the few times when a Thai boxer will intentionally make space in the  clinch.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">A  another knee that can be fired off from long range like the long lead  knee is called <strong>dte khao</strong>, or the “half knee kick” which is  executed like a round kick which comes in at a more diagonal or even  horizontal angle. This knee is best thrown after having caught a kick  or after grabbing the neck and the opponent’s triceps, or even when  exiting the clinch when throwing out an opponent using the aforementioned  twirling method.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">While  in the clinch and fighting for position, staccato, rapid fire “<strong>rabbit  knees</strong>” can be thrown to the legs or abdomen. These resemble the  long knees, but don’t require a full extension of the hips through  the arching of the back. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Perhaps  the most prolific clinch knee is the <strong>curved knee</strong>, which is thrown  by swinging the hip of the kneeing leg into an opponent at a horizontal  angle. This is done in training with the inside of the thigh, but in  a fight, the medial condyle of the tibia is the striking surface, if  not the patella if the fighter has the necessary hip flexibility or  has created the correct angle via the manipulation of their opponent’s  body.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">There  are of course, a vast array of <strong>other knees</strong> found in Muay Thai,  some of which are legal for competition and others that were developed  for the brutal bare-knuckle matches of ancient Muay Boran matches that  lasted until the turn of the century and the battlefield weapons art  that spawned Muay Thai, krabbi krabong.  Some of the fancier knees,  such as the climbing knee, the flying knee, and Gorn Ling Preel (which  requires the fighter to duck a round kick and then launch a jumping  knee into an opponent’s exposed back) can be seen in modern competition,  but are rare and difficult to execute against a skilled opponent, and  hence are sometimes awarded with special financial bonuses if used in  competitive fights. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Besides  knees, straight legged kicks delivered with the inside of the shin,  foot stomps, pecks with the heel, and “<strong>shrimping</strong>” (blocking  incoming knees by controlling the opponent’s hip using the shin as  a break) with the crus (lower leg) can give a fighter an edge in the  clinch.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://slcmma.com/exercises-to-develop-stronger-clinch-control/"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><strong>Conditioning for the Clinch</strong></span></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">As  anyone who tries wrestling for the neck for the first time can tell  you, the muscles in that area become exhausted quickly and fighting  for the position itself can be quite a chore if you aren’t used to  that type of strain. It is not uncommon to see Thai fighters <strong>chomping</strong> down on a chain held between a t-shirt and loaded down with plate weights  to develop their necks. This type of hardcore training will certainly  help develop your necking, but can also chip and damage your teeth.  A safer alternative can be found in a <strong>head harness</strong> type of apparatus  that works on the same principle of lifting a weighted chain with a  nodding motion. Sometimes you may even find gyms that include <strong>freestanding  devices</strong> designed to work the neck, many of which were made with  the needs of football players in mind, but work absolute wonders for  the Thai boxer also. For beginners, simply nodding the head quickly  and fully in each direction will help increase flexibility and strength  in the neck muscles. When doing this particular “<strong>head banging</strong>”  exercise, repetitions in the hundreds are needed for it to be effective. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">The  clinching movements facilitated by the arms can best be developed through <strong> calisthenics</strong> such as push-ups and rope climbing or pull-ups, and <strong> weight training</strong> exercises such as triceps extensions, biceps curls,  and lat pulls. Also applicable to the clinch can be <strong>wrestlers’  bridges</strong> front to back, side to side, and around. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Of  course, as with most martial or combative training, Sigung Bruce Lee’s  adage holds true; <strong>“the best training for something is the thing  itself.”</strong> Working the prummb is certainly the best way to incorporate  muscular development and skill development at the same time.  It  has also been said that a strong neck can <strong>prevent knockouts</strong> due  to contra-coup type injuries and <strong>minimize the disorientation</strong> caused by punches that effect brain areas and sensory organs located  in the inner ear that deal with linear and angular acceleration of the  head.</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Consulted</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Villalobos, Pedro. 2002. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1581603584?tag=calculushelp-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=1581603584&amp;adid=1EY2YB39ZABZJ4WGRKDC&amp;">Fighting  Strategies of Muay Thai</a>. pp.114-119.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Spour, Bob. 2004. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1861266715?tag=calculushelp-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=1861266715&amp;adid=1N41GB3HZV2QDVXVN6EW&amp;">Ultimate  Muay Thai</a>. pp. 52-58, 87-106.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Moore, Tony. 2004. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0760761019?tag=calculushelp-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=0760761019&amp;adid=0YP23E16DMJT3E0M84XB&amp;">Muay Thai:  The Essential Guide </a>to Mastering the Art. pp. 69-73.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Nelson, Greg. 2001. Greg Nelson’s  Clinch: Vol 1 &amp; 2. Edges2, inc.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Also…all accolades to: Ajarn  Surachai “Chai” Sirasute (President of the TBA), Khuen Khru Will  Bernales (Owner Bernales Institute, formerly Kalista Academy of Martial  Arts) Ajarn Sakasem “The Punisher” Kathawong (Former head instructor  of the Muay Thai Institute of Kunponli), Kru Brian Yamasaki and Coach  Brandon Kiser (Owners and instructors of Mushin Self Defense). </span></p>
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<p><em>Note: Dude in the blue is headed for a painful landing via the Uchi Mata throw.</em></p>
<p>A lot of traditional martial artists have great footwork, and this certainly applies to the Judoka. Personally, I see an increasing need for mixed martial artists to understand the fundamentals of Judo. The ability to control how and when a fight goes to the ground is essential in MMA.</p>
<p>Sensei Leo White, shows off an awesome judo combo that revolves around sly footwork. First, he goes in for an outside leg throw, Osoto Gari. In MMA, this could be a knee strike to your opponents inner thigh from the over/under clinch.</p>
<p><img src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/osotogari.jpg" alt="" width="337" height="261" /></p>
<p>If he can drive forward and upset his balance correctly, Leo (in the blue) can get his leg behind and chop backwards, throwing the opponent down in front of him. Depending on the guy, you may or may not be able to pull this one off.</p>
<p>No matter! &#8211; this was a setup. Sensei White talks about how leg work is the judo equivelent of the boxers jab. In the below picture, the opponent dodges the knee strike/throw attempt.</p>
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<p>Sensei White transitions by getting his hips (quickly!) to his opponent and begins the Uchi Mata throw. Bam.</p>
<p><img src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/uchi.jpg" alt="" width="338" height="316" /></p>
<p>Even though you don&#8217;t have a gi, you can pull off both of these throws with over/under control. (BTW, if you need help with over/under control start to <a href="http://slcmma.com/exercises-to-develop-stronger-clinch-control/">develop your clinch control power</a>)</p>
<p>Remember, in MMA, you&#8217;re sneaking in knee strikes or &#8220;Hellbows&#8221; to help get these reactions. It&#8217;s important not to think of judo throws as a one hit KO punch &#8211; it needs to be a seamless technique in a stream of combinations, just like strikes and sumbissions.</p>
<p>Anway, here&#8217;s the video:<br />
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<p>If this has tickled your MMA bone, and want to get some more Judo knowledge, I&#8217;d sugguest the Karo Parysian &#8220;Judo for MMA&#8221; book. Whether you like him or not, Karo Parisyan knows his Judo and has been a big influence in raising the awareness of how effective judo can be in MMA. Both his DVD&#8217;s and the book have detailed instruction on how to nail the Uchi Mata and Osoto Gari throw in No-Gi situations.  Just so you know, I have his book and it&#8217;s awesome &#8211; money well spent.</p>
<p><a href="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51kSUTOr2RL._SL160_.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097773157X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=calculushelp-20&amp;link_code=as3&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=097773157X"></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/097773157X?tag=calculushelp-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=097773157X&amp;adid=1PTBAPTJX64PVD7PYRCQ&amp;"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-212 alignleft" style="float: left;" title="karo1" src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/karo1.jpg" alt="" width="131" height="160" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JTNTD2?tag=calculushelp-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=B000JTNTD2&amp;adid=09G19P113D2Y7RY8JJ5N&amp;"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-213 aligncenter" title="karo2" src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/karo2.jpg" alt="" width="116" height="160" /></a></p>
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		<title>Dealing With Wrestlers In MMA Part 2</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Waaaagh! Wrestlers. They&#8217;re a tricky sort, and as big names like Randy Couture, Matt Hughes, and Brock Lesnar have shown. The purpose of this article is to help fighters who have difficulties in dealing with wrestling based mixed martial artists. Certainly, I don&#8217;t know it all. Hopefully though, you&#8217;ll get some tips and ideas to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Waaaagh! Wrestlers. They&#8217;re a tricky sort, and as big names like Randy Couture, Matt Hughes, and Brock Lesnar have shown. The purpose of this article is to help fighters who have difficulties in dealing with wrestling based mixed martial artists. Certainly, I don&#8217;t know it all. Hopefully though, you&#8217;ll get some tips and ideas to take to the mat and gain an upper hand against wrestling MMA&#8217;ers.</p>
<p><a href="http://slcmma.com/dealing-with-wrestlers-in-mma-part-1/">In part 1</a>, I discussed the basic wrestlers strategy, side control management, preventing the guard pass, and striking from the guard.</p>
<p>In part 2, I want to add some details about dominant positions, submissions from the ground and elaborate a bit about the standing striking game.</p>
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<p><strong>Get Dominant Positions</strong></p>
<p>If you want to improve your chances of winning a match, focus on gaining and keeping dominant positions for greater percentages of your fight practice sessions. In jujitsu, we have a mantra that applies well in MMA: Position Before Submission &#8211; make sure you are secure in a dominant position with all the various technical points under control and the submission will be WAY easier. Instead of struggling to lock in your choke, transition to a more dominant position. Don&#8217;t fight strength against strength in neutral positions, focus on getting some place where you have a leverage and body advantage.</p>
<p>Part of what makes wrestlers such frustrating opponents is that they are good at putting you in disadvantageous positions. The take down, the guard pass, the ground and pound &#8211; it&#8217;s all about being on top, weighing you down, smacking you until KO or an arm/head becomes undefended enough to submit it with ease.</p>
<p>Your job is to do essentially the same thing. Get into a dominant position and work the techniques you know.</p>
<p>It makes sense when you review all the fights you&#8217;ve seen through your mind. How often does a fight get finished once one competitor takes the others back? 60-80%?  It&#8217;s almost natural to just call the fight done when someone gets back mount because it&#8217;s so common to see TKO due to strikes or rear naked choke in a few seconds.</p>
<p>In striking realm, the essence of position before submission is no different. Beating down an opponent from the mount position is much more deadly than being restricted in guard and trying to grind out some ground and pound. Position matters.</p>
<p>Gaining dominant clinches assures that you&#8217;ll be able to get in some punches by controlling the body position and angles made between your body and your opponent&#8217;s.  Randy Couture takes a good deal of time talking about this in his video on &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013VDJ26?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=calculushelp-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B0013VDJ26">Learning to fight and win.</a>&#8221;  Get a good single collar tie, step off to the side and land a straight punch to the face. Anticipating that an opponent will get wise to this, he&#8217;ll angle back toward you to try to defend. Respond by &#8220;swimming&#8221; to the other side, hooking the arm or head and keep the dominant position.</p>
<p><img src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/boxing-punch.jpg" alt="" width="399" height="330" /></p>
<p><strong>Create Angles To Land Strikes and Frustrate Take Downs</strong></p>
<p>I love a still-photo that can capture the exact moment of a knockout punch in all of its sweaty head-snapping, rippled cheeks and fist to face glory. It&#8217;s a special moment, really (unless you&#8217;re on the receiving end). Just like in Sesame Street where today was brought to you by the letter Q and the number 7, there&#8217;s a big chance that the KO blow was brought to you by good attack angles.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough to over-state how useful proper angles are in fighting. Whether standing up or on the ground, moving position to get an angle on a opponent will open him up for nearly unblockable punches/submissions while simultaneously diminishing the strength of his attacks or obviating them altogether.</p>
<p>Leg take downs are initiated in a very linear manner. The wrestler drops his level and bursts forward. Upper body throws all have to be worked from a body clinch. Both are well countered by circling, angle movements.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a deep and rich subject, one worthy of it&#8217;s own post, so I&#8217;ll keep it brief here and post a couple of specifics.</p>
<p>As you drill for take downs, one variation is to train as if you see the take down coming. Remain light on your feet and angle off to the side, push the head and shoulder girdle to the side of you, letting them go past you as you side step and angle off their attack line. If the take down is already underway when you notice it, you&#8217;re probably too late avoid it altogether, but you can still angle a bit as you begin to contact.  As they close that distance, see if you can gain advantage via over/under hooks. See if you can notice which leg they try to grab first &#8211; either by intuition or fight videos &#8211; and get that leg back first. As you &#8220;retreat&#8221; that side, turn or pivot and parry their driving energy forward to that side behind you. Punch to the face or send a knee up to the head.</p>
<p>Watch the fight where Lyoto Machida defeats Tito Ortiz. It&#8217;s almost like Lyoto&#8217;s a matador, and Ortiz a charging bull. Ole!</p>
<p>When exchanging strikes, always trying to work your way out of the power zone of your opponent by circling around them. In a nutshell, that striking power zone is shaped like a round support pillar  &#8211; imagine your opponent hugging a stone column, barely able to connect hands.  Looking on the floor, the power zone can be seen as a circular arc between where their feet are pointing.</p>
<p>There is a good boxing DVD on the market that deals with attack angles specifically &#8211; see Fight Resources bottom of the post for the link.</p>
<p><strong>Create Angles To Get Submissions</strong></p>
<p>My Sensei summed up getting jujitsu with two words &#8211; hip movement. In this context, I&#8217;ll throw in an extra word &#8211; lateral hip movement. If you&#8217;re not a jujitsu player, this advice may be lost on you. If you are a jujitsu player, this advice might be beyond you. I certainly haven&#8217;t achieved that level of grappling nirvana where two words is all I need. Still, it&#8217;s the root of the idea and I&#8217;ll try to do my best describing it.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in guard, don&#8217;t let the guy get his posture.  Even if you&#8217;ve broken your opponent down so you&#8217;re chest to chest, their body laying directly on top of you like the two hands of a clock at 12:00 is bad. In this case, you will always need to push or pull off on one side and try to isolate one half of their body &#8211; either an arm or the head and one arm.</p>
<p>Think of the omoplata submission; you start off in a twelve o&#8217;clock position but push off one hip to move your body to the side, going to a body position that&#8217;s about two o&#8217;clock. As you do this, you get your leg up the back of your opponents body and in front of his face, trapping his arm &#8211; you&#8217;re probably at three o&#8217;clock. Continuing on, you go into a jiu-claw position (six o&#8217;clock) and sit up and start tweaking the shoulder joint.  Check out the article &#8220;Omoplata Omoplata Omoplata&#8221; <a href="http://slcmma.com/omoplata-omoplata-omoplata/">here</a> to see what I mean.</p>
<p>Angle off the body line and see how your opponent may expose himself to submissions. Additionally, one of the great pluses to this is that angling off gives less for an opponent to strike.</p>
<p><strong>Fighter Resources</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve mentioned a few things you might want to check out.</p>
<p>First of all, if you didn&#8217;t catch Dealing With Wrestlers In MMA Part 1, check it out <a href="http://slcmma.com/dealing-with-wrestlers-in-mma-part-1/">here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GOV9FA?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=calculushelp-20&amp;link_code=as3&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=B000GOV9FA"><img src="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/417ZGEZYQ6L._SL160_.jpg" alt="" width="226" height="226" /></a></p>
<p>The learning to fight and win DVD with Randy Couture is well worth the money. He breaks down the clinch game really well. As it&#8217;s a wrestler staple that he&#8217;s been using, you can use it to fight with or avoid it. To really know how to defend an attack, you have to know it yourself.</p>
<p>With all the talk of clinches, you&#8217;ll want to bring yourself up to speed on pummeling and the different clinch positions. The article Basic Pummeling, can be found <a href="http://slcmma.com/learning-basic-pummeling/">here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00114RK0W?tag=calculushelp-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=B00114RK0W&amp;adid=14M8PMASC0VT1TK3TZW9&amp;"><img src="https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tu9R52XSL._SL500_AA280_.jpg" alt="" width="263" height="263" />here</a></p>
<p>The other DVD I mentioned was the Title Boxing Attacking and Punching at Angles. It&#8217;s a solid video from some of the best in the business.</p>
<p>As for hip movement, I mentioned that it&#8217;s a tricky thing to describe. Instead, watch grappling guru Jean Machado perform his 5 favorite submissions. The armbar recounter (2nd shown in the vid) is very instructional on lateral-hip-movement. See it below, or click <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6PXdmspbpk">here</a>.</p>
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<p>Also, three posts in the archives were mentioned directly, or indirectly.</p>
<p><a href="http://slcmma.com/omoplata-omoplata-omoplata/">Omoplata instruction</a> : Tons of omoplata variations and how to pull them off. Watch the hip movement!</p>
<p>Extra Bonus:</p>
<p>Here are some pics that show some good attack angles.</p>
<p><img src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ufc_00056_001.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p><img src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ufc_00056_006.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>On this one (above) notice how Rich Franklin&#8217;s right foot is out side his opponnet&#8217;s left foot.</p>
<p><img src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/jackson-vs-liddell-2.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Above, Liddell is square up to Rampage. Both of Liddell&#8217;s feet are the same distance away from Jackson, &#8220;squaring&#8221; his shoulders and face for impact.</p>
<p><img src="http://slcmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/delliston_wideweb__470x2720.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="260" /></p>
<p>Side step and uppercut: It could equally be a failed take down attempt.</p>
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